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Anonymous Coward
on 2012年11月13日 19時56分
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Other companies have a service you can query the PIN on the Web as well. It will be because only sign settlement of accounts is required usually, so there are a case etc. which he forgets when saying that it will use if compelled. It seems that a reply arrives by paper mail even when a reference is made by Web or telephone as to what differ from this case in the case of the other company.
Why do you have dealing with other companies so carefully? It is this personal identification number because it is a very important number.For example, for a transaction using the IC instead of a magnetic stripe and PIN, it will not receive compensation even fraudulent transactions.(Mr. jbeef points out that in Togetter)
Say why, it is because IC card is almost impossible to replicate. Later, from the fact that it seems to say, if the person does not leak or even intentionally PIN, if the PIN IC card and both are aligned because the exploitation is impossible.
In this case, there is a possibility that they are also available if the PIN code can obtain the card. Possibility of illegal trade, it is not coming out on the card Rakuten deal even if it is done with a personal identification number at least. In this case, when the incident card fraud has occurred, the optimism may need to prove even trading PIN, PIN if you are properly managed, and does not tell the others out.
In addition, there is a possibility that affect the financial institution. There is a warning that says PIN ATM card and use such other number. If you use any other number you turn, the user is recognized as gross negligence. It may not be entitled to compensation said deposits in this case. However, it does not if the financial institution the same, as has been achieved the same level of security almost even somewhere else, will not be compensated deposits even if they turn use the number recited in several financial institutions in general.
However, the prerequisite is not going to collapse by Rakuten has done this time. Will what is going to take to deal Rakuten now.
一方他社では? (スコア:5, 参考になる)
他社もWebで暗証番号を照会できるサービスやってます。
普段はサイン決済だけで済むのでいざ使おうというときに忘れているケースなどがあるからでしょう。
今回のケースと何が違うかというと、他社の場合、Webや電話で照会した場合でも、回答は郵送で届くようです。場合によっては簡易書留で送ってくるケースまであるとか。
他社がなんでそんなに慎重に扱っているかというと、磁気ストライプではなくICと暗証番号を使った取引については、不正取引の補償が受けられなくなるなど、この暗証番号は非常に重要な番号だからですね。(Togetterでjbeef先生も指摘してますが
Re:一方他社では? (スコア:1)
三木谷:"Speak English"
By contrast…? (スコア:5, おもしろおかしい)
Other companies have a service you can query the PIN on the Web as well.
It will be because only sign settlement of accounts is required usually, so there are a case etc. which he forgets when saying that it will use if compelled.
It seems that a reply arrives by paper mail even when a reference is made by Web or telephone as to what differ from this case in the case of the other company.
Why do you have dealing with other companies so carefully?
It is this personal identification number because it is a very important number.For example, for a transaction using the IC instead of a magnetic stripe and PIN, it will not receive compensation even fraudulent transactions.(Mr. jbeef points out that in Togetter)
Say why, it is because IC card is almost impossible to replicate.
Later, from the fact that it seems to say, if the person does not leak or even intentionally PIN, if the PIN IC card and both are aligned because the exploitation is impossible.
In this case, there is a possibility that they are also available if the PIN code can obtain the card.
Possibility of illegal trade, it is not coming out on the card Rakuten deal even if it is done with a personal identification number at least.
In this case, when the incident card fraud has occurred, the optimism may need to prove even trading PIN, PIN if you are properly managed, and does not tell the others out.
In addition, there is a possibility that affect the financial institution.
There is a warning that says PIN ATM card and use such other number.
If you use any other number you turn, the user is recognized as gross negligence. It may not be entitled to compensation said deposits in this case.
However, it does not if the financial institution the same, as has been achieved the same level of security almost even somewhere else, will not be compensated deposits even if they turn use the number recited in several financial institutions in general.
However, the prerequisite is not going to collapse by Rakuten has done this time.
Will what is going to take to deal Rakuten now.
#Since it is TEKITO, it is AC.
Re:By contrast…? (スコア:1)
三木谷:"Excellent!! but I'm Shacho"
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感動した!!!
テキトーには見えない。
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You are BAD.
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YOU IS A BIG FOOL MAN.
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All your base are belong to us.
Re:一方他社では? (スコア:1)
My tomahawk is as long as my wish
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三木谷の生年月日は Wikipediaで明らかになっている [wikipedia.org]ので、彼が生年月日の消去の訴えを起こさなければ重過失で楽天カードの補てんが受けられない、あるいは過失アリで3/4までしか補てん受けられないのですよ!!
http://www.rakuten-card.co.jp/agreement/card_member/ [rakuten-card.co.jp]
第17条(カードの紛失・盗難、偽造、再発行)
3.本条第1項但し書による支払免除の対象となる金額とは、会員が当社に対して連絡を行った日から30日(但し、当社に連絡することができないやむを得ない事情があることを会員が証明した場合には、30日にその事情が継続して
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しゃちょーともあろうお方が、「楽天カード」のような庶民が使うカードなんか恥ずかしくて使えるわけないじゃない。
なので、問題ありません。
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三木谷「細かいことで騒ぐのは少数派ですよ」